Comments on: Ten years after the crash, civil society has come a long way. But much more remains to be done https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/ten-years-crash-civil-society-come-long-way-much-remains-done/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ten-years-crash-civil-society-come-long-way-much-remains-done Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:03:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.4 By: Alasdair Macdonald https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/ten-years-crash-civil-society-come-long-way-much-remains-done/#comment-1383 Sat, 18 Aug 2018 11:35:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=3315#comment-1383 And what do ‘property based loans produce?’ Profit for the rent seekers, but nothing for the common good.

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By: BC https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/ten-years-crash-civil-society-come-long-way-much-remains-done/#comment-1381 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 21:03:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=3315#comment-1381 I remember. An excellent essay.

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By: BC https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/ten-years-crash-civil-society-come-long-way-much-remains-done/#comment-1380 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 20:59:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=3315#comment-1380 You appear to define “productive” as profit generating. Of course SMEs will fail more often. It’s called risk. A property loan by contrast is simply a bet on the appreciation of property prices due to easily predictable factors – making money as you sleep as John Stuart Mill put it. Michael Hudson describes it more accurately as extracting from the economy wealth that other people have put in: parasitism.

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By: Howard Green https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/ten-years-crash-civil-society-come-long-way-much-remains-done/#comment-1379 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 20:26:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=3315#comment-1379 I am afraid this seems Panglossian to me. Late capitalism looks more broken every day, and a coherent response is further away than ever. Economic growth as a solution to all ills is impossible, destructive of the ecosystem conditions for human survival, and increasingly irrelevant to real human needs. The most likely outcome for me is that nature takes its course, and the four horsemen reduce human impact on the planet.

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By: flyingfish https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/ten-years-crash-civil-society-come-long-way-much-remains-done/#comment-1378 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:42:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=3315#comment-1378 How little has changed since I wrote an article for openDemocracy on the fifth anniversary of the financial crisis: https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/keith-fisher/frankensteins-bankers-tale-every-taxpayer-should-know

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By: Sanjay Mittal https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/ten-years-crash-civil-society-come-long-way-much-remains-done/#comment-1377 Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:54:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=3315#comment-1377 Re the idea that SMEs are “productive” whereas property loans are not, the fact is that SMEs fail to repay loans twice of often as property based loans, which indicates that SMEs, or at least the marginal SME is not all that productive.

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