Comments on: Why is the NHS in crisis? https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/why-is-the-nhs-in-crisis/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-is-the-nhs-in-crisis Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:13:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.4 By: steve jones https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/why-is-the-nhs-in-crisis/#comment-1120 Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:48:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=2116#comment-1120 The graph is on trend (actually better than that). There was a huge spike in the Gordon Brown years that had to be worked through. Even after it worked through, the spending (as percent of GDP) is higher now and even higher than it would have been if the (low) trend of Labour or previous Tory govts. had continued.

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By: Alasdair Macdonald https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/why-is-the-nhs-in-crisis/#comment-933 Fri, 05 Jan 2018 11:15:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=2116#comment-933 The multi-national drug companies have certainly located themselves firmly within the NHS. At Ninewells Hospital in Dundee, there is a drug development team, which is undoubtedly world-leading. It is substantially funded and supplied by a consortium of major European pharmaceutical giants. The director of the unit described the quality and purity of the materials with which he and his team were being supplied as of a level he had never before known or, indeed, thought possible. Undoubtedly, drugs were being produced which were far more specific and effective and, of a general benefit. However, the companies in the consortium are seeking to make profits and these profits are coming from the public purse.

So, I agree that we should move towards a national publicly owned pharmaceutical service.

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By: victor67 https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/why-is-the-nhs-in-crisis/#comment-932 Thu, 04 Jan 2018 15:25:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=2116#comment-932 The funding issue is certainly relevant but we must also look at the multi-national drug companies who have a monopoly market in the NHS. Next to staffing medications is the second biggest expense.
A massive public body is easy prey to the rapacious business model pursued by these companies. It is like a giant defenceless whale floating in shark infested waters ripe for easy pickings.
Why leave companies whose overriding motive is profit and a return for their shareholders such an important task of developing and producing the current and future medications? There are so many examples of excessive charging from extending patents to falsifying clinical trials for us not to be aware of the current arrangement.
Why not invest in a national publicly owned drug service where R&D and investment is targeted at human need and the public good rather than on what medication will give investors the best return

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By: Alasdair Macdonald https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/why-is-the-nhs-in-crisis/#comment-930 Thu, 04 Jan 2018 14:11:00 +0000 https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/?p=2116#comment-930 Mr Macfarlane, this is OK as far as it goes and is valuable in setting out explicitly that it is political decisions which are largely contributing to the problems experienced by NHS. In that narrow context to point to cost efficiencies as one way forward. However, the question is more complex than that and, while finance will always be a major factor and the political philosophy underpinning these financial decisions worthy of deep consideration, I think we have to look more radically at how the NHS is organised and how it can be made more dynamic and responsive to changing circumstances, such as the fact that more of us are living longer and the fact that obesity and mental stress are increasing problems amongst the population as a whole.

Undoubtedly, may people within the NHS and in the Civil Service are examining this and have mapped out potential ways forward, but, it is the detachment of the bulk of the population from the consultative and decision-making process that is a problem. A large part of this is our appalling media and too many punch-and-judy type politicians, who focus on trivia such as failures to attain targets AS ENDS IN THEMSELVES, blaming, making generalisations from particulars by focussing on individual bad examples, such as someone spending 16 hours on a trolley (It is terrible, but not typical, and probably can be explained).

We need to start by looking at what our own responsibilities for maintaining our own health are. We need to look at which parts of the NHS are the most appropriate to seek assistance from, i.e. self-filtering, we need to look at what can be achieved within our local communities, such as the provision of care to facilitate more rapid usage of acute hospital beds. We also need to require employers to assume greater responsibility, beyond mandatory H&S for promoting healthy behaviours in the workplaces.

I agree with you highlighting the simple fact of spending being a political decision, but the solution is more complex.

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